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Aug 9, 2009, 2:10pm (top)Message 1: staffordcastle

Time for a new thread!

Aug 9, 2009, 3:06pm (top)Message 2: gregstevenstx

Wouldn't it make more sense to collect the profiles of spammers in a WikiThing article, instead of posting them in conversation threads that 1) are difficult to scan through, 2) eventually get outdated so they can no longer be viewed, 3) cannot be "cleaned up" for duplicates, since people can only delete their own replies?

Aug 9, 2009, 6:24pm (top)Message 3: lorax

2>

eventually get outdated so they can no longer be viewed

Er, what? All threads can still be viewed, responded to, etc. They just get shuffled down to the bottom of the list.

Aug 9, 2009, 6:30pm (top)Message 4: gregstevenstx

Sorry, I should have been more precise: they get outdated so that they are difficult to view and scroll out of the area where people actually pay attention.

Despite that technical correction, my original question still stands.

Wouldn't it make more sense to collect links to profiles of spammers in a WikiThing article?

If you still want the "publicity" of a topic thread, one could still post conversations about the WikiThing page on here. But as a WikiThing page, you could actually make the information MORE accessible, by (for example) linking to it in your profile, or whereever else, too.

Aug 10, 2009, 3:17am (top)Message 5: MarthaJeanne

For some of us 'talk' is very easy, but we aren't comfortable with WikiThing. If a WikiThing page is set up, some of us will either just keep on listing things we find in 'talk' or stop bothering to list them at all.

Aug 10, 2009, 10:08am (top)Message 6: gregstevenstx

5: Well, that's fair enough.

I wish I had the time to be the guy who volunteers to transcribe all of the links in these conversations into a wikithing page. Regrettably, I am not that guy.

Aug 10, 2009, 11:39am (top)Message 7: Rowntree

Unsure if this should count as spam, but the account has no books, and seems to be a representative for a used-book dealer.

http://www.librarything.com/profile/BWB_...

Aug 10, 2009, 2:50pm (top)Message 8: lorax

7>

It looks like BWB_Aaron joined to be able to post a response to a specific question about Better World Books (the OP asked: Does anyone at a small library have experience with Better World Books or similar organization? Could you share your experiences with me?):

http://www.librarything.com/topic/69412#...

I'd keep an eye on the account, of course, to make sure it doesn't start getting used to sell books and that the owner doesn't start spamming, but so far they seem to be okay.

Aug 10, 2009, 3:52pm (top)Message 9: Rowntree

8> Makes sense. Thanks.

Aug 10, 2009, 4:21pm (top)Message 10: lorax

Real estate agent spammer:

http://www.librarything.com/profile/hang...

Seen in action here:

http://www.librarything.com/topic/69658#...

(The post is typical spammer blog-comment behavior, a superficially relevant sentence just designed as a vehicle for the link to her site.)

Aug 11, 2009, 9:51am (top)Message 11: Barry

User spamming groups??

http://www.librarything.com/profile/Juli...

eg here (hopefully)

http://www.librarything.com/topic/70114#...

Message edited by its author, Aug 11, 2009, 9:51am.

Aug 11, 2009, 1:27pm (top)Message 12: Essa

Aug 11, 2009, 11:36pm (top)Message 13: DieFledermaus

Aug 13, 2009, 10:22am (top)Message 14: bookbeat

Aug 13, 2009, 3:34pm (top)Message 15: Essa

Running Giraffe Environmental Boutique
http://www.librarything.com/groups/runni...

By lexseo (a removed user who still manages to make spam groups)

Aug 13, 2009, 10:24pm (top)Message 16: gwernin

spam post

http://www.librarything.com/topic/70918#

by new spammer

http://www.librarything.com/profile/lani...

Message edited by its author, Aug 13, 2009, 10:25pm.

Aug 15, 2009, 11:41am (top)Message 17: Medellia

This spammer:
http://www.librarything.com/profile/link...

See here for example:
http://www.librarything.com/topic/57820#...

(The content of the post other than the link is just a cut-and-paste of an earlier post in the thread.)

Aug 15, 2009, 11:49am (top)Message 18: sjmccreary

Aug 17, 2009, 2:13pm (top)Message 19: Essa

Group:

Elegant web design services, web development services, web design
http://www.librarything.com/groups/elega...

by the user: infodesign

Aug 18, 2009, 1:31am (top)Message 20: Mr.Durick

I don't usually post spam authors so I don't know whether this is a repeat:

http://www.librarything.com/profile/Duch...

I don't want her ousted; I want her co-opted.

Robert

Aug 18, 2009, 8:40am (top)Message 21: laytonwoman3rd

Limos for hire?

http://www.librarything.com/groups/limoh...

and DVD's for sale

http://www.librarything.com/groups/deanm...

Message edited by its author, Aug 18, 2009, 5:12pm.

Aug 19, 2009, 6:10am (top)Message 22: BarkingMatt

Aug 20, 2009, 7:00am (top)Message 23: calm

Aug 20, 2009, 7:05am (top)Message 24: BarkingMatt

Aug 20, 2009, 12:46pm (top)Message 25: Essa

Sacramento Heating and Air Services | Park Mechanical:
http://www.librarything.com/groups/sacra...

by user lexseo (who supposedly is removed, but manages to create spam groups anyway)

Aug 20, 2009, 6:34pm (top)Message 26: lorax

User juergenshrank is spamming all over (I saw twelve groups in a quick glance at All groups) to advertise his new book. He's been a member since July, with no books, and today he added his own book (and no others) and started in with the spam.

Sample post is here:

http://www.librarything.com/topic/71466

They're not terribly offensive as these things go, it's the sheer volume and posting in entirely irrelevant groups rather than the content of the post that makes this one stand out.

Aug 20, 2009, 6:36pm (top)Message 27: Essa

Edit: Oops, lorax's post was already there after I clicked "Submit." I too had noticed the proliferation of promotional posts by juergenschrenk.

Message edited by its author, Aug 20, 2009, 6:39pm.

Aug 21, 2009, 12:09pm (top)Message 28: Essa

Aug 21, 2009, 1:26pm (top)Message 29: Essa

Aug 22, 2009, 2:56pm (top)Message 30: MarthaJeanne

Aug 22, 2009, 2:57pm (top)Message 31: MarthaJeanne

Aug 26, 2009, 10:54am (top)Message 32: GirlFromIpanema

New user http://www.librarything.com/profile/JOSE... spams various groups:

http://www.librarything.com/topic/71835

Ongoing right now, 5-6 groups hit until now:

Finance / Investment : Murder of Lehman Brothers 1 ungelesen / 1 JOSEPHTIBMAN, Heute 10:47am

Aug 28, 2009, 3:04am (top)Message 33: Heather19

Oh the irony. Spam in Site Talk, only a few threads from where this one is right now.

http://www.librarything.com/topic/71949

Aug 28, 2009, 1:38pm (top)Message 34: Essa

Aug 29, 2009, 11:59am (top)Message 35: rsterling

Attorney service:
http://www.librarything.com/groups/welco...
posted by spam user who's been removed (lexseo)

Storage service:
http://www.librarything.com/groups/redli...
posted by this spam user: http://www.librarything.com/profile/Shan...

I know I and others have asked it before, but why is it that most of the time there's no flag option for these groups, yet there is occasionally a flag option for perfectly legitimate groups?

Aug 31, 2009, 9:32am (top)Message 36: JimThomson

Please remove the following groups:

www.librarything.com/groups/personalizedbabygift

www.librarything.com/groups/hillcountryaccomoda

www.librarything.com/groups/carloansaustralia

www.librarything.com/groups/staginglighting

www.librarything.com/groups/redlinesstorageservi

www.librarything.com/groups/welcometorosenburgsp

www.librarything.com/groups/infoprovtestone

www.librarything.com/groups/infoprovtestonesquir

www.librarything.com/groups/fajuniorsarethebest

www.librarything.com/groups/junenewacquisitions

www.librarything.com/groups/juniorsreadthebest

www.librarything.com/groups/fareadersjuniors

www.librarything.com/groups/fareadersjuniors1

www.librarything.com/groups/fareadersjuniors20111

www.librarything.com/groups/fareaders2011

www.librarything.com/groups/fa2011

www.librarything.com/groups/ourladtofgoodcounsel

www.librarything.com/groups/stevenson11

www.librarything.com/groups/tstscclib

www.librarything.com/groups/lavitahouseinternati

www.librarything.com/groups/tjugotresaker

www.librarything.com/groups/galicia

www.librarything.com/groups/ahabsbibliothek

www.librarything.com/groups/bilgersbibliothek

Most of these are spam or nonsense groups, along with those which have no topic or message entered.

Perhaps you should be reviewing the new 'Junk' groups as a regular practice. These groups are just cluttering up an already busy website. If you chose not to, perhaps I could bring them to the attention of the membership with a new Group called 'Junk Groups not being Screened by the Administrators' just to get your attention. If you must ignore the Junk, should the rest of us do likewise?

Aug 31, 2009, 12:10pm (top)Message 37: skittles

last post in this thread...

user has no books & seems to be hawking jewelry (or jewelry making)

http://www.librarything.com/topic/71689#...

Sep 1, 2009, 4:21am (top)Message 38: BarkingMatt

Offering apartments in Spain (also in "book talk"): http://www.librarything.com/profile/jave...

Sep 2, 2009, 12:51pm (top)Message 39: Essa

How does the user lexseo keep making group after group after group, even though s/he has been "removed" for ages? Seriously.

Environmental Clean Up - Cleaning Service | Ziron
by lexseo

DicTran | Professional Digital Recorders
by lexseo

Photo Scanning
by user Britepix

Sep 2, 2009, 11:20pm (top)Message 40: Heather19

http://www.librarything.com/profile/clas...

Spam link, posted in Book Talk too

Sep 4, 2009, 11:02am (top)Message 41: Barry

Sep 4, 2009, 12:43pm (top)Message 42: Essa

Bhangra.

by removed user limohire

Sep 6, 2009, 11:25am (top)Message 43: skittles

found this book under recently posted:

http://www.librarything.com/work/book/50...

user:

http://www.librarything.com/profile/Glba...

all 'works' seem to be spam

Sep 15, 2009, 3:20am (top)Message 44: MarthaJeanne

http://www.librarything.com/topic/73185

New member no books
http://www.librarything.com/profile/cmel...

Message edited by its author, Sep 15, 2009, 3:20am.

Sep 16, 2009, 12:52am (top)Message 45: justjim

This might be a bit pre-emptive since I've only seen one post and it wasn't spam, but this user looks like setting up for spam

http://www.librarything.com/profile/Ambe...

Sep 16, 2009, 1:18am (top)Message 46: sqdancer

Well, her one "book" sure looks like spam to me.

http://www.librarything.com/work/8964843...

Sep 16, 2009, 2:24am (top)Message 47: staffordcastle

The review certainly is.

Sep 16, 2009, 4:48pm (top)Message 48: SaraHope

This user has begun spamming numerous threads in the Historical Fiction group.

http://www.librarything.com/profile/SHAU...

Sep 18, 2009, 5:54pm (top)Message 49: tardis

Sep 19, 2009, 8:25am (top)Message 50: vaneska

Sep 19, 2009, 9:50pm (top)Message 51: lampbane

I had already sent this one to Abby, but just for record-keeping sakes:

http://www.librarything.com/profile/rcma...

Either a test account or someone who might be planning to do something nasty in the future. Hopefully the former.

Sep 20, 2009, 11:34am (top)Message 52: vaneska

Sep 20, 2009, 9:20pm (top)Message 53: foggidawn

User spamming via profile comments:
http://www.librarything.com/profile/wert...

Sep 21, 2009, 10:34am (top)Message 54: vaneska

Sep 23, 2009, 5:29pm (top)Message 55: vaneska

Idiot spamming his hotel in Belgium on talk: http://www.librarything.com/profile/mich...

Probably a nice hotel too :(

v

Sep 24, 2009, 2:25am (top)Message 56: vaneska

Piece of author sockpuppetry nicely exposed by Detective Chief Inspector MrAndrew: http://www.librarything.com/topic/73761

v

Sep 24, 2009, 1:05pm (top)Message 57: Essa

Bad Credit Instant Cash Loans

by user eugeniaeula

(Although it may be tempting to get "instant cash" loans so as to buy more books, it is not advisable. ;) Neither is spam.)

Sep 24, 2009, 9:21pm (top)Message 58: Crypto-Willobie

http://www.librarything.com/profile/Them...
The above account (containing no books) has posted multiple duplicate Comments, most of them obscene, on bluetyson's page: http://www.librarything.com/profile/blue...

Sep 24, 2009, 11:51pm (top)Message 59: reconditereader

Sep 25, 2009, 8:13am (top)Message 60: vaneska

http://www.librarything.com/profile/joha...

Posted a spam link (that doesn't work) in Spanish (bedroom furniture) in booktalk thread.

v

Sep 25, 2009, 10:26am (top)Message 61: lampbane

rcmacbookpro is posting junk again:

http://www.librarything.com/venue/34993/...

Sep 27, 2009, 4:04pm (top)Message 62: christiguc

This girl has been putting false entries into LT-Local (as she admits here). I would just erase them, but if this is just the beginning, someone might want to intervene.

Sep 27, 2009, 4:14pm (top)Message 63: justjim

I get the impression that Late Rose is not a spammer but a malicious entity deliberately intending to harm the site.

Sep 28, 2009, 12:46pm (top)Message 64: lorax

This user seems to me like a pretty blatant ToS violation, but they've been around for years; have they just slid under the radar, or did they get some sort of exemption?

Sep 29, 2009, 6:52am (top)Message 65: vaneska

http://www.librarything.com/profile/barb...

Book Talk search optimisation spammer

v

Sep 30, 2009, 12:03am (top)Message 66: Heather19

http://www.librarything.com/profile/jenn...

Spamming Book Talk with off-topic "I'm bored" threads.

edit:

And will anything EVER be done about all the students who are "sent here by their teacher" or whatever but who have no interest in books whatsoever (ie, have catalogued nothing, haven't even TALKED about a book in their spammy-posts)...

I know, I know, "benefit of the doubt". But Tim, TIM I'm calling you here! It's reducious that this crap is still going on. That kids that obviously have no interest in books, that FILL up these groups with SPAM messages, are just free to do so! An admin should, at the VERY least, talk to the teacher, set up a private group for them, something!

*end rant*

The most recent of which: http://www.librarything.com/topic/74120#

Message edited by its author, Sep 30, 2009, 12:09am.

Sep 30, 2009, 12:22pm (top)Message 67: justjim

1) Bravo, bravisimo for #66

2) My schoolboy French dribbled out one ear when I was learning Chinese, but I feel that this
http://www.librarything.com/topic/74198#...
by
http://www.librarything.com/profile/Tran...
looks more like a press release than anything else. Please just ignore 2) if I'm wrong.

But 1) stands. I stand. Bravis! Bravisimo!

Oct 1, 2009, 1:42am (top)Message 68: justjim

Oct 1, 2009, 9:44am (top)Message 69: marckendyajules

send it to me

Oct 2, 2009, 3:48pm (top)Message 70: lorax

Two creepy stalker-ish new groups:

http://www.librarything.com/groups/horse...
http://www.librarything.com/groups/horse...

I know that the "random and duplicative groups" aspect isn't really enforced anymore, but this is just super-creepy.

Oct 2, 2009, 4:18pm (top)Message 71: gwernin

70: ugh. And it looks like they're minicking someone else's username too.

Oct 2, 2009, 10:03pm (top)Message 72: rsterling

I noticed that one user has been leaving comments for a lot of people asking if they'd be willing to review his e-book. This is someone who's been around a little while, and he's also offering the book on Member Giveaways. Judging from the comments on his profile, most people he's been contacting don't seem to mind being asked. Is this crossing the advertising/promotion line or just making book-related connections on LT? The generally favorable responses are what give me pause.

Oct 2, 2009, 10:14pm (top)Message 73: Myckyee

>72 He deletes all negative comments.

Oct 2, 2009, 10:16pm (top)Message 74: SylviaC

I suspect the unfavourable comments probably get deleted or hidden.

Oct 2, 2009, 10:39pm (top)Message 75: gwernin

I've seen some of his comments too. My feeling is that it's a bit blatant and someone official should speak to him about it.

Oct 2, 2009, 10:54pm (top)Message 76: BeckyJG

He deleted my negative comment.

Oct 3, 2009, 4:07am (top)Message 77: vaneska

72-76: I reported this recently (either upthread or in a previous thread). I have a feeling that Abby has had a word with him about it.

v

Oct 3, 2009, 8:43am (top)Message 78: Carnophile

This person http://www.librarything.com/profile/Nikk... is also this person http://www.librarything.com/profile/nold...

and she is spamming her book, which is one of only two books in her catalog.

Example of spamming, this thread, posts 67-69:

http://www.librarything.com/topic/2791

Message edited by its author, Oct 3, 2009, 8:45am.

Oct 4, 2009, 12:38am (top)Message 79: BeckyJG

72-77 Just joined a Book Blog site. He spams there, too. Guess he's doing his authorial legwork.

Oct 4, 2009, 2:48am (top)Message 80: Heather19

79: I think it's pretty sad that authors feel the need to spam websites now in order to get people to read there book. Whatever happened to honest book promotions and stuff?

..... Oh God, I'm only 22 and I'm talking about "good old days". Yikes.

Oct 5, 2009, 9:56am (top)Message 81: vaneska

Oct 6, 2009, 12:40pm (top)Message 82: gwernin

this looks like a copyright violation to me:

http://www.librarything.com/topic/74576#

Oct 6, 2009, 12:49pm (top)Message 83: MerryMary

I don't think so. She gave proper credit, and quoting is allowed use, I believe.

Oct 6, 2009, 12:56pm (top)Message 84: sqdancer

> 83

Quoting short bits perhaps, but is it allowed use to reproduce the entire poem without permission??

Message edited by its author, Oct 6, 2009, 12:57pm.

Oct 6, 2009, 1:12pm (top)Message 85: Essa

User Hirelimos mistook LibraryThing for LimousineThing, and created these spam groups:

Limo Hire in Manchester UK

Cheap Limo Hire UK

Student Prom Car Hire

Message edited by its author, Oct 6, 2009, 1:14pm.

Oct 6, 2009, 1:32pm (top)Message 86: gwernin

83, 84: I tend to agree with sqdancer, though I'm very far from being an expert. Information on publication (book title, page number, etc.) would be desirable, and linking to it somewhere would be better. If it were my poem I wouldn't be particularly happy.

Oct 6, 2009, 1:37pm (top)Message 87: lorax

83>

Um, no, giving credit means it's not plagiarism. It doesn't mean it's not a copyright violation. And reproducing the entirety of a poem would be unlikely to fall under fair use. I've only reviewed one book of poetry on LT, but I didn't dare quote more than a couple lines.

Oct 6, 2009, 6:53pm (top)Message 88: Carnophile

I believe US copyright law explicitly excludes quoting an entire work from "fair use."

Oct 7, 2009, 3:29am (top)Message 89: vaneska

http://www.librarything.com/topic/74615#

French-Canadian spam.

v

eta (later on): he's still at it: http://www.librarything.com/topic/74679#

Message edited by its author, Oct 7, 2009, 7:24pm.

Oct 7, 2009, 1:41pm (top)Message 90: Essa

I'm assuming this is spam. Tech support/call center company in India.

Bpo company india

by user ankur01 (free account, 0 books)

Oct 8, 2009, 6:37am (top)Message 91: calm

Strange one this 2 types of spam from the same person.

This in talk http://www.librarything.com/topic/74699

(pregnancy spam)

from this member

http://www.librarything.com/profile/nene...

(property spam)

Oct 8, 2009, 7:14am (top)Message 92: justjim

I guess that if you get pregnant, you need a new villa?

Oct 10, 2009, 1:23am (top)Message 93: reconditereader

Oct 10, 2009, 4:49pm (top)Message 94: vaneska

This person http://www.librarything.com/profile/sher... seems to have joined LT purely in order to promote her own books. Perhaps I'm just a stroppy cow, but I don't like it and I don't want to see more of it on LT.

v

Oct 11, 2009, 8:32am (top)Message 95: Carnophile

This person
http://www.librarything.com/profile/worl...

spamming talk, e.g., here:

http://www.librarything.com/topic/72430#...

Message edited by its author, Oct 11, 2009, 8:33am.

Oct 13, 2009, 10:40am (top)Message 96: krazy4katz

The OP here is thought to have some devious purpose.

http://www.librarything.com/topic/74922&...

k4k

Oct 13, 2009, 12:27pm (top)Message 97: tardis

Oct 13, 2009, 1:11pm (top)Message 98: BeckyJG

Oct 13, 2009, 1:17pm (top)Message 99: MerryMary

The guy definitely has issues. The review for his only "book" was, uh, interesting.

Oct 13, 2009, 1:41pm (top)Message 100: lorax

98>

Wow.

Apparently offering free membership and then charging to enter unlimited books is the worst abuse since the industrial revolution.

Oct 13, 2009, 1:44pm (top)Message 101: MerryMary

He also left snarling messages on tim's and felius' profile pages.

ETA: Actually, he has attacked everybody on the masthead individually.

Message edited by its author, Oct 13, 2009, 1:52pm.

Oct 13, 2009, 1:58pm (top)Message 102: christiguc

A bit nuts, if you ask me. But he did pay for a lifetime account, strangely enough.

Oct 13, 2009, 2:03pm (top)Message 103: staffordcastle

Sounds like Tim should give him his money back.

Oct 13, 2009, 4:31pm (top)Message 104: christiguc

I don't think I said anything here to make him mad. . .

Oct 13, 2009, 5:57pm (top)Message 105: lorax

Oct 14, 2009, 12:53am (top)Message 106: rsterling

98+ Darn, looks like I missed all the fun! His messages on Tim's and others' profiles are a bit cryptic. Exactly what is LT alleged to be stealing, or whom is LT putting to work without pay, and how?

Oct 14, 2009, 1:01am (top)Message 107: MerryMary

If I understand correctly - an iffy prospect at best - he thinks that all of us that make contributions to this site are being robbed of rightful compensation for our labors. Tim is fattening his bank account on the backs of the downtrodden members.

Or something.

Oct 14, 2009, 1:27am (top)Message 108: justjim

I do really need to take more exercise so that I can be less of a downtrodden mass.

I take it putosquealy or whatever has never heard of the concept of volunteerism.

Oct 14, 2009, 1:31am (top)Message 109: rsterling

He doesn't think we donate our labors quite happily? Has he never heard of hobbies? Social cataloging, generally? Collaborative media? Wikipedia? And the architecture to allow us to create catalogs of our books - that's not worth anything?

Oct 14, 2009, 7:05am (top)Message 110: BarkingMatt

I get the impression that it's the combination of users doing volunteer "work" with Tim running a business that's so galling to him. But that's just my interpretation. Ah, whatever...

Oct 14, 2009, 11:44am (top)Message 111: Carnophile

Is it even legal for Tim to accept our labor without at least paying us the minimum wage? I'm calling OSHA!

Oct 14, 2009, 11:45am (top)Message 112: BarkingMatt

Good for you! ;-)

Oct 14, 2009, 11:46am (top)Message 113: Carnophile

So I just looked for the guy's message on Tim's profile page and part of it is, "You are worse that OCLC, and Amazon, they don't pretend to be working for humankind."

Of course, this suggests a new slogan:

LIBRARYTHING
Working for humankind

Oct 14, 2009, 11:52am (top)Message 114: BarkingMatt

Ref: PequeñoPazzo - or whatever his name is.

Oct 14, 2009, 12:05pm (top)Message 115: skittles

It is very simple: Tim is enabling our/my addiction to books & my 'volunteering' feeds my addiction/OCD to keeping things orderly & correct.

The fact that I have paid a piddly amount to feed said addiction is my business, not "pequenowhatsis".

Tim provides a service to book addicts everywhere!!

If I don't want to use his service, I don't have to stay.

And I'm not going to any 12-step program to rid myself of said addiction... I can stop whenever I want!!

right.

Oct 14, 2009, 12:15pm (top)Message 116: StormRaven

I take exception to putoelquelee's claim that Amazon isn't working for humankind. Do you have any idea how difficult it would be to find things like Dr. Horrible's Sing-Along-Blog or The Guild or any number of other obscure books, DVDs, and CDs if Amazon wasn't around?

Message edited by its author, Oct 14, 2009, 12:15pm.

Oct 14, 2009, 2:34pm (top)Message 117: rsterling

This appears to be a bookstore listing their inventory; I think that's permitted, but I'm not quite sure where the line is. Are they allowed to list their website on their profile, or to have a normal account rather than an organizational one? Gotta love the name, which is advertising in itself: snagadeal.
http://www.librarything.com/profile/snag...
This one may have been noted before. Is it perhaps the latest incarnation of that bargain books member, with a changed username? At any rate, it's the top listing in Zeitgeist, and if it's an organization, it probably shouldn't be, right?

Oct 14, 2009, 3:12pm (top)Message 118: skittles

#117: former name was something like discountbooksmoviesmusic or similar....

yeah, store inventory... yuckos

but how is that any different from a bookmoocher listing their inventory here, too? even under a tag or collection? ok, snaggletooth's entire inventory is listed & a bookmoocher has their own books, plus their library...

but still, it's a conundrum.

Oct 14, 2009, 3:16pm (top)Message 119: rsterling

Spam groups:
http://www.librarything.com/groups/multi...
http://www.librarything.com/groups/ukbha...
http://www.librarything.com/groups/addic...
http://www.librarything.com/groups/egold...

And their corresponding spammer members:
http://www.librarything.com/profile/Mult...
http://www.librarything.com/profile/Bhan...
http://www.librarything.com/profile/affo...
(egoldclick member already deleted)

Why do spam groups stay around after the spammers are deleted? And, again, what happened to group flagging? (Sorry, I pop in and out of this group; maybe this has been clarified already?)

Oct 16, 2009, 7:19pm (top)Message 120: vaneska

I'm sure this one's been reported already. Anyway, he's still spamming political stuff in talk (in French): http://www.librarything.com/profile/bent...

v

Oct 16, 2009, 11:32pm (top)Message 121: Heather19

Why is this person allowed to keep spamming about his blog? From what I can tell, he does it regularly and nothing's been done about it. Yeah, he has books in his inventory and such, but that doesn't stop SPAM from being SPAM.

http://www.librarything.com/profile/book...

Oct 19, 2009, 4:08am (top)Message 122: vaneska

This person is a regular spammer of Ugg boots: http://www.librarything.com/profile/Abig...

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Oct 19, 2009, 4:13am (top)Message 123: justjim

Oct 19, 2009, 9:01pm (top)Message 124: Carnophile

Hewlett Packard seems to be using LT to advertise.

http://www.librarything.com/groups/hplin...

Group created in 2006 and so far not one thread or post.

Message edited by its author, Oct 20, 2009, 5:03pm.

Oct 20, 2009, 5:00pm (top)Message 125: LadyViolet

I spotted and flagged a guy who was blatantly just advertising his book in Book Talk but i seem to have lost the thread or accidentally ignored it so i can't dredge up a link. He was using the very subtle placement of a very favorable review of his book off amazon to prove to people why it was worth buying.
I'm going to look again and see if i can find it.

Edit Nope can't find it, I think that rule where if enough people flag the post to make it disappear without adding a post in reply then the whole thread disappears has been put to good use. Gah and i was feeling *So* useful until then!

Message edited by its author, Oct 20, 2009, 5:07pm.

Oct 21, 2009, 7:59pm (top)Message 126: reconditereader

Oct 21, 2009, 9:20pm (top)Message 127: Carnophile

A flag is raised in my mind by this one:
http://www.librarything.com/topic/75454

The profile: http://www.librarything.com/profile/abou...

Message edited by its author, Oct 21, 2009, 9:21pm.

Oct 21, 2009, 9:37pm (top)Message 128: Medellia

#127: I don't think so. About50ayear has posted many threads since she joined (some of them quite fun), and none of the others are spammy. She has also chatted on other threads that she didn't start. If she's a spammer, then she's a startlingly crafty one.

Oct 22, 2009, 5:05am (top)Message 129: BarkingMatt

Agree with Medellia. Pity "About50ayear" hasn't catalogued any books (yet), but she's making a real contribution to the social aspect of LT in talk.

(not that I particularly like the specific thread you're referring to either, but that's an entirely different thing, isn't it?)

Message edited by its author, Oct 22, 2009, 5:05am.

Oct 22, 2009, 5:32am (top)Message 130: BarkingMatt

Oct 22, 2009, 8:12am (top)Message 131: Carnophile

>128, 129
Okay. I wasn't aware of that.

Message edited by its author, Oct 22, 2009, 8:12am.

Oct 22, 2009, 9:32am (top)Message 132: BarkingMatt

That's okay. That's why it's a good thing to notice these things here, where other people can comment.

Oct 22, 2009, 10:54am (top)Message 133: BarkingMatt

Rubber for playground safety :

http://www.librarything.com/topic/75507#

Oct 22, 2009, 10:55am (top)Message 134: StormRaven

This person is hawking rubber mulch:

http://www.librarything.com/topic/75507#

And this is their profile:

http://www.librarything.com/profile/Rubb...

Which has one book, about rubber mulch, and a single review, that is a bunch of links to articles about rubber mulch.

Oct 22, 2009, 11:07am (top)Message 135: BarkingMatt

Spamming this group, no less:

http://www.librarything.com/topic/75509#

Oct 22, 2009, 11:11am (top)Message 136: StormRaven

And here is SuperFinePrinting's bookless profile that seems to exist only to post spammy messages:

http://www.librarything.com/profile/Supe...

Oct 22, 2009, 11:36am (top)Message 137: calm

The spammers are out today! This topic

http://www.librarything.com/topic/75511#

from this member http://www.librarything.com/profile/Rest...

Oct 22, 2009, 11:39am (top)Message 138: LadyViolet

This chap has just spammed Book talk about restaurant supplies
http://www.librarything.com/topic/75511#

here's his profile
http://www.librarything.com/profile/Rest...

Oct 22, 2009, 11:39am (top)Message 139: LadyViolet

Dang it Calm beat me to it how eerie...

Oct 22, 2009, 11:42am (top)Message 140: Thresher

Oct 22, 2009, 11:49am (top)Message 141: StormRaven

These spammers coming out today have to be related. The spamming member profiles were created on the same day, at least two of them share striking similarities (a single "book" that consists of e-articles, and a review of that book that consists of a bunch of advertorial links), and they jumped out spamming talk groups all on the same day.

Oct 22, 2009, 6:05pm (top)Message 142: vaneska

127-132: I had also thought About50ayear to be generally posting in good faith but this thread makes me begin to wonder http://www.librarything.com/topic/75554

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Oct 22, 2009, 6:10pm (top)Message 143: lorax

132>

You may want to reconsider your defense of "about50ayear":

http://www.librarything.com/topic/75554#

"about50" gets abusive when it is politely suggested that Book Talk might not be the best place for off-topic chatter. So much for "Assume good faith". (And those assumptions of good faith, which have created all the off-topic thread, gets used as ammunition in favor of even more off-topic crap on Book Talk.)

About50 claims to have "no time for catalogs", which makes you wonder why LT rather than Facebook or some other purely-social site.

Oct 22, 2009, 7:16pm (top)Message 144: BarkingMatt

> 143: Yeah, I was surprised to read that thread.

Message edited by its author, Oct 22, 2009, 7:16pm.

Oct 23, 2009, 1:13pm (top)Message 145: LadyViolet

>143 Wow I was pretty shocked at how much About50 reacted to WHL just simply stating that book talk wasn't the place for all the off-topic threads they were posting. They seemed alright until then.

Oct 23, 2009, 2:30pm (top)Message 146: StormRaven

Does this qualify as spam?

http://www.librarything.com/topic/75608

The user, "coldcaser" has a profile, created today, with exactly one book in their library, the book being touted.

Message edited by its author, Oct 23, 2009, 2:30pm.

Oct 23, 2009, 2:33pm (top)Message 147: gwernin

145: I agree - way out of line. about50 seems to be on the wrong site, imho.

146: Looks like spam to me.

Oct 23, 2009, 3:38pm (top)Message 148: fig2

Oct 23, 2009, 3:42pm (top)Message 149: fig2

Oct 24, 2009, 3:59am (top)Message 150: vaneska

Prolific carpet cleaning spammer: http://www.librarything.com/profile/terr...

v

Oct 24, 2009, 5:20am (top)Message 151: calm

carpet cleaning spam

http://www.librarything.com/topic/75653#

from

http://www.librarything.com/profile/terr...

ETA - vaneska beat me to it.

but noticing the time of post he is very prolific!

Message edited by its author, Oct 24, 2009, 5:22am.

Oct 26, 2009, 10:37am (top)Message 152: AnnaClaire

Oct 26, 2009, 3:00pm (top)Message 153: vaneska

Oct 26, 2009, 8:57pm (top)Message 154: gwernin

153: also with spammy reviews and ratings on all her own books.

Oct 26, 2009, 10:55pm (top)Message 155: StormRaven

154: It appears that several of her reviews have been flagged and are now hidden.

Oct 26, 2009, 11:58pm (top)Message 156: gwernin

Oct 27, 2009, 12:37am (top)Message 157: gwernin

Oct 27, 2009, 2:07am (top)Message 158: StormRaven

The handyman appears to be at it again:

http://www.librarything.com/topic/75844#

Oct 27, 2009, 5:24am (top)Message 159: vaneska

Oct 27, 2009, 6:58pm (top)Message 160: gwernin

Oct 27, 2009, 8:47pm (top)Message 161: krazy4katz

Was this reported yet?

Diabetic Shoes:
http://www.librarything.com/topic/75907

Why people would want them, I don't know. You probably have to feed them a special diet.

Oct 27, 2009, 10:19pm (top)Message 162: MerryMary

sugar-free chocolate pudding.

Oct 28, 2009, 1:31am (top)Message 163: justjim

Oct 28, 2009, 5:05am (top)Message 164: BarkingMatt

Oct 28, 2009, 8:48am (top)Message 165: Carnophile

Author joined today, spamming his/her book:

http://www.librarything.com/topic/75922#

Oct 28, 2009, 2:36pm (top)Message 166: BarkingMatt

Oct 29, 2009, 4:59am (top)Message 167: rorrison

Oct 29, 2009, 5:21am (top)Message 168: BarkingMatt

Oct 29, 2009, 5:43am (top)Message 169: vaneska

The spammers are out in force just now. Here's another: http://www.librarything.com/profile/ipho...

v

Oct 29, 2009, 6:03am (top)Message 170: justjim

Oct 29, 2009, 4:08pm (top)Message 171: vaneska

Oct 29, 2009, 6:28pm (top)Message 172: BarkingMatt

Oct 30, 2009, 10:43pm (top)Message 173: Heather19

171: UGH.

THIS is where the whole "assume good faith" thing of Tim's really frustrates me. Okay, we assume good faith the first time, even the second time, that this guy spams us with his book. This is like the BAJILLIONTH time, he keeps making new accounts and spamming, he KNOWS what he's doing..... Why hasn't his ISP been blocked by now??

Nov 1, 2009, 5:22am (top)Message 174: justjim

Nov 1, 2009, 5:24am (top)Message 175: justjim

Nov 1, 2009, 5:30am (top)Message 176: justjim

Nov 1, 2009, 5:32am (top)Message 177: justjim

Nov 1, 2009, 8:53am (top)Message 178: BarkingMatt

Nov 1, 2009, 8:22pm (top)Message 179: krazy4katz

Spooky spamming of his own book:
http://www.librarything.com/topic/76217
http://www.librarything.com/topic/76218

Message edited by its author, Nov 1, 2009, 8:23pm.

Nov 2, 2009, 6:04pm (top)Message 180: gwernin

Nov 3, 2009, 3:35am (top)Message 181: vaneska

Nov 3, 2009, 2:31pm (top)Message 182: lorax

I'm cynically starting to think that anyone who has a username ending in a series of three or more consecutive digits and either no books or books by only one author in their catalog should just be barred from posting. There are a few legit *123 members, but it's not the way to bet, and the "has books" qualification would let them in.

Edited to clarify: I'm not actually serious. That shouldn't need to be said, but given the way "Assume good faith" is used to mean "Assume the worst of long-time members", it may be necessary.

Message edited by its author, Nov 3, 2009, 2:39pm.

Nov 4, 2009, 6:03am (top)Message 183: katieinseattle

Here's traumatic brain injury dude agaaaaaaaain http://www.librarything.com/topic/76377.....

Nov 4, 2009, 11:11am (top)Message 184: calm

Nov 5, 2009, 12:11am (top)Message 185: MrAndrew

I haven't been here for a while, but had to out someone bringing dishonour to my country. Car insurance spammer:
http://www.librarything.com/profile/kidc...

Strangely posting extremely polite messages without the usual links to the spam website.

http://www.librarything.com/topic/75880#...

Either stupid, or else being very subtle and knowing that people can find the spam website link through the profile, without blatantly posting the website link each post. I'm going for "stupid".

Nov 5, 2009, 12:13am (top)Message 186: MrAndrew

so, suspected sockpuppet accounts... should they be reported here also?

Nov 5, 2009, 12:40am (top)Message 187: staffordcastle

You betcha, MrA!

Nov 5, 2009, 12:51am (top)Message 188: MrAndrew

thanks MrCastle!

Well, these two users could probably stand some checking out by tPtB, using their highly-soffisticated sockpuppetry-sniffing diagnostical tools (like checking IP addresses, waving rubber chickens, whatever it is they do).

http://www.librarything.com/profile/kevi...
http://www.librarything.com/profile/Thir...

The suspicions of sockpuppetry come from this thread, among others:
http://www.librarything.com/topic/76366

Nov 5, 2009, 9:57am (top)Message 189: gwernin

Nov 5, 2009, 10:00am (top)Message 190: gwernin

sock puppetry by the brain injury guy:

http://www.librarything.com/topic/76029#...

Nov 5, 2009, 4:21pm (top)Message 191: gwernin

Nov 5, 2009, 7:55pm (top)Message 192: Heather19

188: I just had a very interesting time reading that thread. Do these spammers/puppeters really think we are that stupid? Gosh.

re the brain injury guy: AGAIN I SAY, can't this person be IP-banned?! He's done this waaaaaaay too many times, it's waaaaaaaay past "good faith" now, he needs to be dealt with for good! This is just ridiculous that it's been allowed to go on this long.

Message edited by its author, Nov 5, 2009, 7:58pm.

Nov 5, 2009, 10:09pm (top)Message 193: MrAndrew

>#192 re #188: yes, it was somewhat entertaining. Not spammers though, and maybe i'm stupid/gullible but i'm still not sure about the sock puppetry - really, you can only ever suspect that, only an admin can say for certain. I only listed it here because some of the posts from those users were a bit abusive, and Tim specifically posted recently that sock puppetry for such nefarious purposes was verboten.

Nov 6, 2009, 8:17am (top)Message 194: MarthaJeanne

I would like to point out that IP addresses are handled differently in different parts of the world. My ISP assignes one of its IP addresses to me each time I go on-line. But it is not necessarily the same one I had last time, and the number I have today will have been used by others at other times. This is normal here. Banning an IP that is moved around in an ISP would not be a good idea.

Nov 6, 2009, 8:48am (top)Message 195: LadyViolet

Just spotted this prednisone spam it's own group no less!
http://www.librarything.com/topic/76535#

here's the group
http://www.librarything.com/groups/predn...
aand here's the spammer's profile
http://www.librarything.com/profile/jhsm...

Message edited by its author, Nov 6, 2009, 8:49am.

Nov 6, 2009, 2:34pm (top)Message 196: fig2

Nov 6, 2009, 6:13pm (top)Message 197: gwernin

a whole nest of spammers, which perhaps have also taken over some real books:

http://www.librarything.com/work/7474425...

Nov 6, 2009, 7:05pm (top)Message 198: lorax

197>

That looks like one of the spam-catching works that combiners put together to lump all the crap in one place. Since the staff doesn't delete spam works anymore, if they ever did, this is sort of a next best thing. What looks like a real book in there to you? I just did a cursory look but I didn't see anything.

Nov 6, 2009, 8:05pm (top)Message 199: gwernin

What seemed odd was when I looked at conversations about the "book" - I know about the combining, but there seemed to be some real conversations attached to it. Otherwise it's a big bunch of spam "member" names.

Nov 6, 2009, 8:11pm (top)Message 200: sqdancer

Some people don't notice when they've created incorrect touchstones (and some notice but leave them anyway); that might be why some of the the conversations are "off".

Message edited by its author, Nov 6, 2009, 8:14pm.

Nov 7, 2009, 10:00am (top)Message 201: gwernin

Another new spamming author, who oddly enough is described as an organization on her profile page...

http://www.librarything.com/profile/Trac...

Nov 7, 2009, 2:20pm (top)Message 202: gwernin

Nov 7, 2009, 9:50pm (top)Message 203: Thresher

Mortgage spam

http://www.librarything.com/topic/76301#...

originating from this profile:

http://www.librarything.com/profile/alin...

Message edited by its author, Nov 7, 2009, 9:50pm.

Nov 8, 2009, 2:19am (top)Message 204: MrAndrew

Nov 8, 2009, 8:30pm (top)Message 205: caffron

Wiki spam for essay-writing service. I just removed:

http://www.librarything.com/wiki/index.p...

from user Sophiegreen101

Nov 9, 2009, 12:30am (top)Message 206: Heather19

Anyone need a wedding dress?

http://www.librarything.com/topic/76673

Nov 9, 2009, 6:11pm (top)Message 207: Essa

Interested in "Swift, low cost car finance solutions in Australia"? No? Me either. Spam group getapproved, by spam user getapproved02.

Nov 10, 2009, 2:43am (top)Message 208: vaneska

Not the first time this person http://www.librarything.com/profile/susa... has spammed the board. 3 posts on book talk this morning:

http://www.librarything.com/topic/76756
http://www.librarything.com/topic/76755
http://www.librarything.com/topic/76754

A quick google of author name soon removes any impression of sanity.

v

Nov 10, 2009, 5:20am (top)Message 209: justjim

Nov 10, 2009, 1:50pm (top)Message 210: Essa

More from the persistent limousine spammers.

limousinehire group from user Hirelimo.

Nov 10, 2009, 4:26pm (top)Message 211: Rowntree

#201, soliciting reviews for her book here: http://www.librarything.com/topic/76594#

Nov 11, 2009, 5:37am (top)Message 212: LadyViolet

Found another spam group this time to do with Private label rights (or whatever the hell that is)

Group page
http://www.librarything.com/groups/priva...
Topic in question
http://www.librarything.com/topic/76832#
And profile of spammer
http://www.librarything.com/profile/thep...

Nov 11, 2009, 5:42am (top)Message 213: MrAndrew

It's a campaign for the rights to label your privates as you wish. A very worthy cause.

Nov 11, 2009, 1:10pm (top)Message 214: Essa

Solid Wood Flooring group
by the spammer Realoakfloors

Edited to fix tag.

Message edited by its author, Nov 11, 2009, 1:10pm.

Nov 12, 2009, 4:43am (top)Message 215: BarkingMatt

Nov 12, 2009, 5:29am (top)Message 216: justjim

Nov 12, 2009, 5:57am (top)Message 217: vaneska

Nor this outfit, spamming bug collectors: http://www.librarything.com/profile/webr...

v

Nov 12, 2009, 5:58am (top)Message 218: BarkingMatt

Nov 12, 2009, 1:26pm (top)Message 219: Essa

Feeling fashionable? Chilly weather got you down?

Fur Hats | Imported Fur Hats | Faux Fur Hats - The Russian Store group

by the spammer FurHats

Nov 12, 2009, 6:01pm (top)Message 220: dfmorgan

Nov 12, 2009, 10:51pm (top)Message 221: krazy4katz

Need a prom or wedding dress?
http://www.librarything.com/topic/76963
Lost the link to the wedding dress...

by this person:
http://www.librarything.com/profile/isaa...

Nov 13, 2009, 5:37am (top)Message 222: MrAndrew

you people sound like you have already been assimilated.

Nov 13, 2009, 5:39am (top)Message 223: BarkingMatt

http://www.librarything.com/work/book/53...

> 222: Resistance is futile.

Message edited by its author, Nov 13, 2009, 5:40am.

Nov 13, 2009, 1:37pm (top)Message 224: Essa

Spam cleans your colon! (Who knew?)

colon cleansing products group

by the spammer calvina1

Nov 13, 2009, 3:02pm (top)Message 225: vaneska

http://www.librarything.com/profile/Apri..., spamming RSI, at the least.

v

Nov 13, 2009, 11:24pm (top)Message 226: reconditereader

Want some sort of limo or rickshaw? (really?)

http://www.librarything.com/groups/limou...

Nov 13, 2009, 11:29pm (top)Message 227: reconditereader

Nov 15, 2009, 6:34pm (top)Message 228: vaneska

Spam event added to this local page: http://www.librarything.com/venue/45187/... (I can't believe they would only have added it here - there must be more)

v

Nov 16, 2009, 4:21pm (top)Message 229: sarah-e

Nov 16, 2009, 5:40pm (top)Message 230: vaneska

Nov 16, 2009, 7:05pm (top)Message 231: jjwilson61

Since this group is about more than just Spam Groups, perhaps it should get a new name on its next incarnation (which should be soon).

Nov 16, 2009, 7:17pm (top)Message 232: skittles

THE END IS HERE!!!

Nov 16, 2009, 7:23pm (top)Message 233: MrAndrew

Nov 16, 2009, 7:48pm (top)Message 234: justjim

Hey, Where'd everybody go? *Looks up* Wait for me! I'm right behind you.

Nov 16, 2009, 8:52pm (top)Message 235: rsterling

228: can't any of us just delete a spam event? The user is gone now.

Nov 18, 2009, 6:01am (top)Message 236: BarkingMatt

Nov 18, 2009, 6:33am (top)Message 237: justjim

Matt. Sit. Stay. Look at #232/233. Good boy.

Nov 18, 2009, 6:46am (top)Message 238: BarkingMatt

Ack, sorry. * Offers paw. *

Nov 20, 2009, 1:26pm (top)Message 239: lampbane

This message has been deleted by its author.

Nov 20, 2009, 1:32pm (top)Message 240: Larxol

This message has been deleted by its author.

Nov 20, 2009, 1:38pm (top)Message 241: jjwilson61

This thread has been closed. See msgs 232 and 233.

Nov 20, 2009, 1:45pm (top)Message 242: BarkingMatt

Closed

But continued here: http://www.librarything.com/topic/77209

Message edited by its author, Nov 20, 2009, 1:46pm.

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